THE CHURCH

[Darrell]

WHEN DID THE CHURCH START?

JESUS WAS THE CHIEF CORNER STONE. BUT A FOUNDATION IS NOT MADE UP OF ONE STONE, SO WHAT MADE UP THE REST OF THE FOUDATION, THE JEWS AND THE PROPHETS,

NOW IS THE FOUNDATION A PART OF THE BUILDING,

YES ,YES AND YES

SO GOD STARTED THE CHURCH WITH ADAM, AND ALL OF THE PROPHETS THAT FOLLOWED.

AND THE ROOF SO TO SPEAK WILL BE THE 144,000 JEWS THAT WILL FINISH THE TEACHING OF GOD'S WORD TO A CONCLUTION,

THE EXPERTS ARE WRONG

[Irene]

Darrell God's Word is truth.

Can you support any of the above with the Word of God?

Eph 2:19 Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God,
Eph 2:20 having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone,
Eph 2:21 in whom the whole building, being fitted together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord,
Eph 2:22 in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.

Apostles and prophets- of the Chuch age are referred to here, although OT prophets also left a legacy. The whole building is all the saints- the whole church. Adam does not fit into this picture at all.

[Darrell]

ADAM WAS THE FIRST PROPHET

[Darrell]

JF ALL THAT JESUS DID IN JUST 3 1/2 YEARS COULDN'T BE WRITEN IN ALL THE BOOKS THEN HOW MUCH MORE COULD BE WRITEN ABOUT GOD?
THERE IS A LOT ABOUT GOD THAT IOS NOT WRITEN DOWN BUT IN 2CRON
GODS EYES RUN TO AND FRO LOOKING FOR SOME ONE TO SHOW HIMSELF TO
AND DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION THAT MAY NOT HAVE AN ANSWER IN SCRIPTURES , THEN I GUESS GOD CAN'T TELL YOU

[Darrell]

A QUESTION I ASKED GOD BUT NOW I WLL ASK YOU IN THE BEGING GOD LOOKED AT A CREATION AND IT WAS GOOD.
AND IN GOD'S EYE WHEN IT IS GOOD IT IS PERFICT.

IF EVERY THING WERE PERFECT THEN WHY WAS ADAM MADE WITH SUCH A LARGE BRAIN AND ONLY ABLE TO USE ABOUT 1/10 OF IT???????????

[Irene]

Wrong Darrell God is revelatory and He does speak to me aside from the Word of God all the time He is still speaking to His people today. The church commenced properly from the day of Pentecost.


See those scriptures Acts 1:1-11, Acts 2:22-24, 29-41 , Matthew 28:16-20, Mark 16:14-20, Luke 24:36-49, John 10:16, John 21:15-19.

Adam walked with God in Eden prior to the fall in close fellowship but he was not part of the church. After the fall his fellowship with God was interrupted. Abraham worshiped God but he was not part of the church.

The blood of Jesus shed for us paved the way for us to have a restoration of relationship with our heavenly Father. Jesus paid the price for our sins, now our sins have been washed away and God sees us as righteous.


The church was begun in order that we might witness for God in all parts of the earth. The church began with the apostles and other first century Christians.


As regards your question about our brains well actually is that true that Adam was only able to use about 1/10th of his brain?

Is that true of us- no for we have been given the mind of Christ

1Co 2:16 For "who has known the mind of the LORD that he may instruct Him?" But we have the mind of Christ.

But our minds need to be transformed and renewed for it to be so.

Rom 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service.
Rom 12:2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.

[Bek]

A QUESTION I ASKED GOD BUT NOW I WLL ASK YOU IN THE BEGING GOD LOOKED AT A CREATION AND IT WAS GOOD.
AND IN GOD'S EYE WHEN IT IS GOOD IT IS PERFICT.

IF EVERY THING WERE PERFECT THEN WHY WAS ADAM MADE WITH SUCH A LARGE BRAIN AND ONLY ABLE TO USE ABOUT 1/10 OF IT???????????

I've never heard it said that we are only able to use 1/10 out of our brain.. but I've heard it said that we only use 1/10 of our brain... why did God create it like that? Maybe so we have something to do, like learn.. if our brains were filled to their capacity - there would be nothing else to learn because we wouldn't have "room" for it.. yet as it stands, we do.

And I don't agree with you saying Adam was a prophet.. he was just the first guy God created.

Darrell, do not be led astray by empty philosophy, or high sounding nonsense that comes from human thinking (Col 2:8) - instead stick your head into the Word of God - that is where the wisdom and the answers are.

[Darrell]

BEK THE WORD SAYS TO STUDY IT DOES NOT SAY READ THS BIBLE.
AND WHILE JESUS WAS PREACHING HOW MANY TIME DID HE STOP AND READ?

AND THE WORD SAYS THAT HE (GOD THE FATHER IS A REWARDER OF THEM THAT DILIGENTLY SEEK HIM.
AND JESUS SAID NO MAN COMMETH TO THE FATHER BUT BY ME,
the word also says that God's eyes run to and fro threw out the earth looking for some one to show himself to, so i just told him i was here and wanted to see him.
why is he haveing to look so hard?????


IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE SUPOST TO BE LEARING ABOUT THE FATHER, AND LOOKING FOR HIM.

JESUS SAID I AM THE DOOR, HE ALSO SAID THE GATE IS NARROW AND THE PATH STRAIGHT, IF HE IS THE DOOR THEN HE IS THE GATE, BUT THE PATH GOES BEYUND JESUS , WHERE TO?
BUT THE CHURCH IS GOING ROUND AND ROUND AND ROUND THE CROSS.

AND SINCE I WAS MISSLED THEN YOU TELL ME WHAT TEACHER HAS SAID WHAT I SAID???????????????

AND JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A BOOK IN THE BIBLE TITLED THE BOOK OF ADAM DOES NOT MEAN HE WAS NOT A PROPHET.

WHO DO YOU THINK TAUGHT THE WORLD ABOUT THE CREATION AND THE FALL OF MAN?

OH HOW LITTLE YOU KNOW

GOD GAVE ADAM A large brain because he was supost to fill it with the knowledge of God, and guess what it is there and when you go to the other side you will have all that knowlecge there allready

Adam and the others have been collecting it for you over the last 6,000 years

[Irene]

The word of knowledge is supernatural revelation, by the Holy Spirit, of certain facts in the mind of God. It is the God-given ability to receive from God, by revelation, facts that is in the norm humanly impossible for us to know anything about.

A word is just part of a sentence so a "word" of knowledge is just a small fragment of God's knowledge. He gives us as believers a “piece” of His knowledge regarding a particular circumstance or situation.

God has all knowledge. He knows everything, but He does not reveal everything to us. Revelation knowledge is Him speaking to us His people at the right time. If the Lord wants us to know something, He will reveal it to us. We don't need to know everything.

Many of us have been given revelation that has been stored up in the memory banks of our minds, but we never share it or use it to bring Him glory. When the Lord brings revelation to us, we must ask Him what He wants us to do with it. Should we speak it forth, or should we hold it in our hearts?
It’s not always wise to blurt out everything we know, the Lord may tell us not to do so. We must be wise and use wisdom in all that we do and say.

We must also learn to walk in the knowledge that has already been given to us. Knowledge will not benefit the kingdom of God unless we have wisdom to use the knowledge according to His leading and direction.

We need to be able to discern what is of God and what is not, it is His voice we want to hear. He can speak to us through dreams and visions, a still small voice, His Word, and sometimes even audibly.

What we hear though should never ever be a contradiction of God's Word. If it is it is not from God. We need to learn to test the spirits whether they are of God. There are things that you are stating here Darrell that you believe are straight from God but I am sorry they are in actual contradiction to His Word and that seriously troubles me.

Jesus Christ is the living Word we are not to add or subtract from it.

2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,

Luk 24:45 And He opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the Scriptures.

Deu 4:2 Do not add to what I command you and do not subtract from it, but keep the commands of the LORD your God that I give you.

1Th 5:19 Do not quench the Spirit.
1Th 5:20 Do not despise prophecies.
1Th 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good.
1Th 5:22 Abstain from every form of evil.

I am involved in prophetic evangelism and I believe in testing the spirits whether they are of God and learning how to hear from God clearly.

Tit 1:9 holding fast the faithful word as he has been taught, that he may be able, by sound doctrine, both to exhort and convict those who contradict.

Darrell you need to study God's Word, to see what He says about prophecy. It is a good thing to seek to hear from God but make sure who it is you hear from. Are you part of a Church? If not I suggest you find a good Spirit filled Bible based church. We all need fellowship with other believers.

[Javanut]

As Irene has so eloquently stated, the written Scriptures - the bible we hold in our hands is God's final word and authority on all we believe and practice. Any insight or inspiration we received from God lines up with Scriptures.

It is not the Scriptures + anything else (book of Mormon, Koran, etc) but Scripture Alone!! Sola Scriptura!